Reading super conservative comments is fun!

"Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)" (rduncan5678)
06/28/2016 at 08:18 • Filed to: None

There are often times in the morning where I try to catch up on some news and read a few articles. For entertainment, I generally read these articles on MSN and then go on down to the comment section for the best part. There I often find some of the most absurd conservative remarks that really make me question the sanity of people. Sure I may be mostly liberal leaning (at least when it comes to social issues) so maybe I am just biased. But these certifiably insane people make me think they are part of the Westboro Baptist Church or the KKK. Check out the comments on this latest article regarding abortion:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/…

I try to not ever get involved with politics crap but these comments are just so insane that it is actually hilarious to read.

This Miata with absurd wing. Also hilarious because this picture looks totally serious.

DISCUSSION (48)

Dru > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
06/28/2016 at 08:26

I generally get the same experience from my FB feed. The threads from the local news channels of my home town are my absolute favorite.

BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
06/28/2016 at 08:29

A sorta-mentor of mine; a guy that really taught me a lot of the technical aspects of my job; someone who I really admired, both for his dedication to the office but also for his charming manner and ability to get everyone to like him; a guy that I really looked up to; he retired and Facebook friended me.

All. Crazy. Conservative. Religious. Posts. All. The. Time. Pro-gun, anti-immigrant, anti-abortion, Jesus is everywhere kinda ridiculousness. I never would have guessed from his real-life interactions with everybody.

Connqr > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
06/28/2016 at 08:31

Thank you for this.

vondon302 > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
06/28/2016 at 08:34

There is No rational debate on the abortion issue. I lean conservative but this issue drives me nuts. Its no business of the state to tell someone what they can do about thier own body. The comments on that article are absurd!

nafsucof > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
06/28/2016 at 08:37

Why did you link me to that page. I'm mad and feel dumb now... Lol. But I'm with you, though I actively try to avoid idiots comments like that and read idiot comments on focusrs.org...

duurtlang > BrianGriffin thinks “reliable” is just a state of mind
06/28/2016 at 08:38

Some people get really weird when they approach retirement age. Their world becomes smaller and they loose the ability to see things in perspective and use nuance. Irrational persecution complex becomes more frequent as well, as is stubbornness.

OPPOsaurus WRX > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
06/28/2016 at 08:41

my previous boss thought Obama will start a world War and pass something that would require him to remain president past the end of his term for the war and eventually establish some sort of Communist dictatorship.. He truly believed (s?) this

marshknute > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
06/28/2016 at 08:42

I never understood why people think it’s wrong to abort a baby knowing full well that its mother is neither mentally prepared nor financially stable enough to properly raise them. So you’re just condemning the mother to give up her aspirations, and condemning the child to a disadvantaged childhoo.

Although it’s one of those no-win arguments. Both sides agree that murder is wrong, but fundamentally disagree on whether life begins at conception or birth. They’ll never see eye to eye.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
06/28/2016 at 08:43

I love that Miata. Love it x2000 if it’s functional.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > vondon302
06/28/2016 at 08:45

I am actually surprised though that I didn’t see anyone blaming Obama in the first few posts. I have even seen frivolous articles about random topics where someone will find a way to blame Obama.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > nafsucof
06/28/2016 at 08:47

Its so bad that it is enticing to me to read on. I am used to the idiots on reddit but this is a whole different level. I am just confused how these people actually function.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > OPPOsaurus WRX
06/28/2016 at 08:48

People were saying the same thing in the runup to Y2k about Clinton. I went to an fundie Christian school. People think Saved! is an over the top comedy. It’s not. It’s the light version. Jesus Camp is closer to reality.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > OPPOsaurus WRX
06/28/2016 at 08:49

I once saw a guy on my street corner that was holding a poster of Obama photoshopped onto some image of an Egyptian pharaoh. It had all sorts of hateful stuff written on it as well. I didn’t know those people existed in the real world!

yamahog > marshknute
06/28/2016 at 08:49

Meh, idc when life begins. Grown humans don’t get to be literal parasites on my body either. If the anti abortion movement actually cared about saving “babies,” maybe they could throw their money at developing a fetal donation procedure and artificial wombs rather than passing shitty laws and harassing women.

vondon302 > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
06/28/2016 at 08:50

I’m sure there’s one in there somewhere.

duurtlang > vondon302
06/28/2016 at 08:51

The problem, besides the obviously very emotional arguments, is that proponents and opponents do not talk about the same things. Hence the lack of a real discussion. People apposed to abortions talk about ‘babies’, ‘people/person’ and ‘murder’. This is logical from their perspective. However, to many (myself included) a fetus is not (yet) a baby, not (yet) a person and terminating a early/mid-term pregnancy does not constitute murder. This is something one can disagree with, obviously. However, as long as one group screams about murdering babies while the other talks about fetuses and female rights there’s no discussion possible.

Having said that, when looking at the US side of things there’s something about the political anti-abortion segment that surprises me. When I look back home the (rare) anti-abortion politicians are also in favor of helping families, funding schools and what have you. Yet in the US the anti-abortion folk seem to want to protect fetuses to the extreme yet seem to lose all interest (bootstraps!) after birth, cutting as much funding for needy kids and parents as possible.
Slight hyperbole: a kid can die in the gutter and they don’t care, yet you’re a murderer when you end a pregnancy and they’ll do everyting in their power to prevent this from happening.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To
06/28/2016 at 08:54

I kinda doubt that wing being all that functional lol. I quite often see some crazy wings at Autox and wonder how much it actually does at such low speeds.

Jake - Has Bad Luck So You Don't Have To > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
06/28/2016 at 08:58

I’ve seen some fairly ridiculous looking aero setups on dedicated time attack Miatas. Would need to see his front end treatment to know if this is rice or functional. If he has an underbody tray that diffuser could generate some serious downforce, and that wing is high enough to be in the unobstructed air and also generating a fair amount of down. Miatas are kinda garbage for aero so most functional wings for them will be waaaay the hell up in the air like that.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
06/28/2016 at 08:59

You’d be surprised. I don’t think that the wing in that picture will do much at autoX, but I’ve asked one of the SSM Miata guys if it really helps, and he said he a/b’d it for over a second. We had exceptionally long tracks at that one because we had a runway to ourselves and, umm, we weren’t always doing under highway speeds per SCCA rules. I could occasionally hit 80 in Charlie with the old engine with almost zero compression on one cylinder. An Evo guy with a datalogger hit 116 once.

wiffleballtony > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
06/28/2016 at 09:04

I get the same feeling most of the Gawker comments. It’s amazing people can be so insular in their opinions.

Ash78, voting early and often > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
06/28/2016 at 09:06

The key is finding...the right wing. /sunglasses

vondon302 > duurtlang
06/28/2016 at 09:08

Well said. Doesn’t make sense to me either. My wife is a teacher in the rough part of town. 45 percent of her students are in some form of foster care but yet gay couples can’t adopt wtf! Pretty sure that kid is going to be better off with them than growing up in the system no matter what your views are.

wiffleballtony > vondon302
06/28/2016 at 09:08

I think it’s rediculous to assume the state would need proof of why you need an abortion. By the time that bureaucracy is sorted the kid is already working at McDonald’s.

Ash78, voting early and often > duurtlang
06/28/2016 at 09:09

I’m vehemently anti-abortion because I equate it with murder, but I also have a hard time understanding how so many other Americans say this, but then also firmly support the death penalty. To me, if we’re going to err on one side, we need to be logically consistent: All human life is sacred, not just those we deem to be innocent. I’m very wary of the idea of the death penalty because even the occasional time when an innocent person has been executed, the whole discussion should then be completely off the table.

duurtlang > Ash78, voting early and often
06/28/2016 at 09:24

That’s the thing. While I vehemently disagree with your abortion stance, I do recognize it as being consistent given the context you present. As such I respect it. There’s nothing wrong with having different opinions, especially if these opinions are well thought out. Reading a lot of internet comments I do perceive your opinion as a rare one. Most on the anti-abortion side* seem to be inconsistent, uninformed, judgemental, vindictive, insincere, highly emotional or (usually) a combination of those qualifications. Sadly. Again, from an internet comment point of view.

(*I’m not arguing the pro-choice side is a bastion of rationality and wisdom)

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > wiffleballtony
06/28/2016 at 09:29

Yup, super weird when I click on an article on the jalopnik front page and it takes me to one of the other gawker sites. Sure I find the article interesting and am glad to have clicked the links. But then the comments are so toxic and idiotic! It is just confusing because I spend so much time on jalopnik/oppo where opinions seem a lot more rational when it comes to non-car topics. And since the other gawker sites are in the same kinja format, I feel like I am in a twilight zone or something.

Ash78, voting early and often > duurtlang
06/28/2016 at 09:29

Well further, as you said earlier, the issue is extremely complex because both sides argue different things. Do I agree a woman should be able to control her own body? Absolutely! Except....in the case where it intentionally hurts the baby. So the entire argument is predicated on which of those two issues you hold to be the cornerstone of your viewpoint (woman’s body vs baby’s life). I was pro-choice/pro-abortion for probably 25 years, but eventually I changed my view on which was more important to me. Unfortunately for women, that means I have to hold the life above the choice. Sometimes I wish we men could have babies so our positions could hold more “moral authority” and not be perceived as pushing our views on others. And it never, ever helps when people pushing one viewpoint — on any issue — is really doing it to further another agenda, such as subjugating women. (and the Internet is a very poor representation of opinions, I believe. Most of my friends and peers are anti-abortion, but if you sat and talked to them, you'd find them calm, informed, and reasonable in their beliefs. Something about online commenting screws all of that up.)

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
06/28/2016 at 09:38

I just want to disappear. I can't take the politics anymore.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
06/28/2016 at 09:52

Christ that is fast! I actually dislike the really fast courses, tends to put my Miata at a disadvantage. Especially since 2nd gear tops out around 48 ish. I prefer the courses where I don’t actually need more speed than that. This past Sunday I was riding the rev limiter a fair bit because shifting would have wasted too much time.

Danger > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
06/28/2016 at 09:55

Try working in the oil and gas industry. Packed full of angry white dudes wtih guns who blame OBAMA for everything wrong in their daily life. “That trench wasn’t dug in time, well what can you expect with that president we got.” Actual sentence spoken by a conscious person. They grasp at any reason to incessantly bitch about the black dude. There are a TON of things I disagree with Obama about regarding policy, but it never occurred to me that he would take my guns (he can’t/won’t) or that he is to blame for bad weather/work being not fun/someone’s wife leaving them/everything under the sun.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap
06/28/2016 at 10:05

Makes me wonder, are those people how we as Americans are viewed from more civilized places like Europe? Because then I could totally understand why Europeans think we are nuts.

My bird IS the word > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
06/28/2016 at 10:06

I need to stop reading political articles. Herp derp the other party is dum herp derp! None of these political discussions are on the actual merits of the policies being discussed, just a bunch of biased nonsense. At least I know I’m a hypocrite lol.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
06/28/2016 at 10:08

It’s been pretty rare for me that bouncing off the rev limiter apart from maybe for a moment has been faster than going third, but I’m also pretty damn good at heel toe since it’s just a habit for me at this point. I do it in normal everyday driving. For me, more than a couple of bounces off the limiter makes third worth it and that’s with the rev limiter on the 4A being almost S2000 good. I always shave time going to third and back. The BRZ on the other hand.... Ugh.... Worst rev limiter ever. You simply can’t hit it because it’s like the car slamming on the brakes so you will always lose time and can badly unsettle the car if you’re entering a turn at that speed.

Daily Drives a Dragon - One Last Lap > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
06/28/2016 at 10:24

I'm pretty sure that's how they view us. :(

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > My bird IS the word
06/28/2016 at 10:53

I feel like its more like "who is your favorite sports team" instead of political party.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
06/28/2016 at 10:56

Hmm, that is weird about the BRZ. I can ride my limiter all day, it is much smoother than my shifting and downshifting again after a turn. Generally I can get right to the limiter before a turn comes and not need 3rd. Other than when the end is a nice little straight. Then I definitely needed 3rd. But there are times in slaloms where I don’t really need more speed but I can probably carry a little tiny bit more in 3rd.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
06/28/2016 at 11:09

Ever try interchanging runs to see which is faster? If you’re bouncing off it for a while, you’ll probably be surprised at how much time you’re losing.

BigBlock440 > Ash78, voting early and often
06/28/2016 at 11:55

Difference is, one’s already proved they can’t live within the bounds of society and are a danger, the other has not even been given the chance.

Ash78, voting early and often > BigBlock440
06/28/2016 at 12:10

True, don't get me wrong, but as a Christian I always struggle with the idea of us humans providing final judgment (in a non-wartime situation). I still tend toward agreeing with capital punishment, but if we screw up even once (and we have), then we should at least question it more, or work harder to make sure it's 100% foolproof. And we could pay for it by letting all those petty drug offenders out on probation...

BigBlock440 > Ash78, voting early and often
06/28/2016 at 12:22

I understand that viewpoint, just saying I don’t think it’s very hard to justify both. Especially in this country where you need to remove any pretext of religion before discussing laws.

Ash78, voting early and often > BigBlock440
06/28/2016 at 12:36

Which itself is tough, because we're one of the few countries on earth who state that our innate human rights were conferred to us by a creator. That made it tough for me when I was agnostic and trying to argue against it. I'm simply talking about the whole "sanctity of life" applying to one person over another, not universally. But that's more of a nuance of specific New Testament Christianity, not just a general Judeo-Christian (or Deist) legal view on why we have rights.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
06/28/2016 at 13:02

Well I am not necessarily bouncing but it is just so very close on the straighter parts. I believe that I start to notice the torque dropping off slightly as it crosses past 6000 rpms. I could definitely use to experiment more with 3rd gear on these courses but it is the downshifting back to second where I am going to lose time and more importantly smoothness. This is why I enjoy it more on courses where it is put it in second and forget it until the end.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
06/28/2016 at 13:42

I love the improvement aspect of it. If I’m gaining half a second in a spot where I’m hearing other people bounce off the limiter, nailing it feels better even if I have my hands full. Can’t really relax autoXing an MR2 anyway. If you’re not perfect with your right foot in a decreasing radius turn, you’re going backwards, so throwing another element into it and nailing it is just so, so satisfying. You should practice heel and toe. If you do it in traffic, it becomes second nature and you no longer even think about it on track.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
06/28/2016 at 15:45

Yup, I have absolutely no idea how to heel and toe. That is something I would like to learn in general though, probably starting with youtube and then just trying it out would be the way to go. I could imagine if I had that down then I would be much more willing to shift.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
06/28/2016 at 15:55

Yeah, it’s basically multitasking. Do it right and you won’t lose any time downshifting at all because all of that is being done while braking. Still need to consider upshift time sometimes, but generally the extra speed makes up for that pretty quickly. I saw a youtube video and was like “oooooh..... Noooow I get it” and it’s been second nature since a few days later.

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
06/28/2016 at 16:08

I am always downshifting instead of bothering with braking on the street but its often a shuffling of braking and gassing where it just feels stupid. But it will be much more natural once I get the hang of heel toe. Thankfully I have heard it is super easy on a Miata.

SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie > Wrong Wheel Drive (41%)
06/28/2016 at 16:16

Brake pads are cheaper and easier to replace than clutches ;)

Wrong Wheel Drive (41%) > SidewaysOnDirt still misses Bowie
06/28/2016 at 16:47

Well yeah but its more fun to use the clutch lol. I am talking about properly rev matching at least and mostly just coasting anyways. My commute is so short though that I figure I put minimal wear on anything either way.